crazykayaks, EFT tappers couldn’t hit an acupuncture point even with a magnifying glass. Do you really think vague tapping is in the same league as the sublety of acupuncture? I am amazed at how few realise EFT is hypnotic induction. Its just a tool said the EFT’ers, just to help with symptoms. Then Gary Craig starts soliciting stories of cures of serious, fatal diseases. The no-limits therapy world is saturated with fast-food quick fix ‘cures’. We need stronger human rights, not mass hypnosis
BellaMarlene: Thanks for the advice. Yes I did tap on the fundamental issues (insecurity issues really…), and I still had problems. It just isn’t my thing I suppose. I haven’t tried it in a few months, though I have been doing other things to improve my mental/physical condition. Maybe I will give it a whirl again? Salutations:)
Haha. Yet it is completely free. I don’t see many Charlatons capitalizing on fully disclosed information, but that’s just me… I am a sick person, and although EFT didn’t do wonders for me, I am still greatful for free tips when they are provided. Grow up.
Suit yourself. I do hope you take the shades off sometime. I noticed you mis-defined the placebo effect, and underestimate the power of belief to heal on a physiological level. You are misinformed, and obviously a miserable person. No one else would spend pages of comments decrying somethig that is not a threat to anyone. Best wishes~
@Listendudeok And I’m sure traumas can be healed by placebo. Just because something isn’t widely acknowledged under the allopathic doctrines of medicine, doesn’t mean it it can’t be effective. Would I tell someone with stage 3 cancer to cure it with EFT? Of course not. In fact I would recommend anybody with a legitimate physical/mental malady to see the appropriate MD for their primary care. But there is no harm in people using stuff like EFT in conjunction with medical treatment. Agreed?
Gary Craig is a fraud. As I said below,he claims to heal severe traumas by tapping.Fucken tapping. This is hilarious. But whatever dude, if you need to be healed from something, I wish you good health.
@senhordasempadas I find it terrible that EFT guru Gary Craig claims to heal SEVERE TRAUMAS man, this is just bogus, to say the least. You don’t play games with people seeking real help.
There are no acupuncture points. Keep up with the research. Acupuncture is also mostly placebo and it doesn’t matter at all where you put the needles – you get the same effect no matter where they go.
There is a difference between a naysayer and someone who is not an idiot.
Not a single form of “energy” medicine has been shown to work beyond the placebo effect. Conclusion… just as any reasonably educated person or child can tell.. it’s bullshit that people make up to feel important, delude themselves, and/or and scam others.
Only relevant if you counted the thousands for which it didn’t work and the expected percentage of spontaneous remissions, regression to the norm, controlled placebo, etc.
Don’t you understand the process you MUST go through to properly weed out the real effects from the noise?
try it before you believe it
dont believe it before you try it
skeptic people didnt made the first airplane didnt made the first spaceshutlle
imagine columbus saying:Sailing to India
is impossible
i understand sick people need real help and gary craig is wrong and a fraud… its a crime:)
but youre running an unuseful pattern in your head
try new things and you will get new results
@standekoster Ok, I must say I am a sceptical towards all alternative medicine. It is all nothing to me. That is my pattern in my head – can’t help it. Out of experiences too, you know. Be glad if you can believe in things – it may activate useful placebo. But placebo is not a healing method, beacuse it is a temporary effect. Anyway, do what feels good to you.
There are acupuncture points, which are easily found by experienced practitioners. However, the EFT explaination is not congruent with experience. Simply tapping on alternative shoulders with not acupoints involved works exactly the same as EFT. Another principle is involved other than Craig’s therory.
Those skeptics out there have either not tried EFT, or their problem has not been properly addressed. It is rare that an issue heals by taking it on directly, such as trying to make diabetes go away. You must first treat the resistance, the issues of always being on the defensive and feelings of rejection within the family that must be also included. The results I see in my practice are far beyond that of placebo and far beyond that of the medical establishment; and much cheaper.
@Orayn If you want effectiveness Orayn, try it on yourself. It works, it has changed my life and the lives of those I have used it with. I’m regularly meeting people who I share EFT with, often sceptics. I love the sense of amazement when they are able to let go of the blocks to their happiness. This is set to change the 21st century. Not only in terms of healing, but in coming to an understanding of who we really are. Good luck in your quest. Peace
@Orayn Try it out, it takes 5 minutes, if that…unless you’re making 1000′s of dollars per hour, you probably could spare the time. Personally, I use EFT as a means to let go negative emotions that have been festering inside me. I used to drink and do drugs to deal with my inner demons, but recently quit these things and found EFT; it’s helping me out a lot! Try it out!
I viewed a youtube vid “documentary” on eft. The thing that made me suspicious was that most of the interviewed were (tho credentialed) well known figures in media. Which may mean PR campaign; PR means propaganda. Some of these folk do speak out against the system however (not in the vid).
I’m open tho. I’ve come across many sources discussing new technologies validating meridians and chi flow. I’ve got special glasses for auras…
I agree with that early post about hypnotic induction tho. Surely there’s got to be a test besides alleviation of deep emotional issues – which can be temporal. I don’t find it that effective but maybe the tech isn’t correct.
Wouldn’t you say things like Matrix Energetics is infinitely more dubious? I’d say that this IS hypnotic induction.
It seems as if they have pushed the limit in marketing thin air as it were.
crazykayaks, EFT tappers couldn’t hit an acupuncture point even with a magnifying glass. Do you really think vague tapping is in the same league as the sublety of acupuncture? I am amazed at how few realise EFT is hypnotic induction. Its just a tool said the EFT’ers, just to help with symptoms. Then Gary Craig starts soliciting stories of cures of serious, fatal diseases. The no-limits therapy world is saturated with fast-food quick fix ‘cures’. We need stronger human rights, not mass hypnosis
maybe its b/c you didnt adress whats causing these things in the first place? obviously tapping on basic symtoms wont do much or anything
2cents
BellaMarlene: Thanks for the advice. Yes I did tap on the fundamental issues (insecurity issues really…), and I still had problems. It just isn’t my thing I suppose. I haven’t tried it in a few months, though I have been doing other things to improve my mental/physical condition. Maybe I will give it a whirl again? Salutations:)
Haha. Yet it is completely free. I don’t see many Charlatons capitalizing on fully disclosed information, but that’s just me… I am a sick person, and although EFT didn’t do wonders for me, I am still greatful for free tips when they are provided. Grow up.
It’s kind of a compromise between lies and placebo.
Whatever brings you relief… but I’m against lies and quackery.
Suit yourself. I do hope you take the shades off sometime. I noticed you mis-defined the placebo effect, and underestimate the power of belief to heal on a physiological level. You are misinformed, and obviously a miserable person. No one else would spend pages of comments decrying somethig that is not a threat to anyone. Best wishes~
If you are sick,seek real help is all I can tell you.
EFT-guru Gary Craig even claims to heal severe traumas with placebo,an this is just… wrong.
@Listendudeok And I’m sure traumas can be healed by placebo. Just because something isn’t widely acknowledged under the allopathic doctrines of medicine, doesn’t mean it it can’t be effective. Would I tell someone with stage 3 cancer to cure it with EFT? Of course not. In fact I would recommend anybody with a legitimate physical/mental malady to see the appropriate MD for their primary care. But there is no harm in people using stuff like EFT in conjunction with medical treatment. Agreed?
DUDE, HE FUCKING HEALS! Our emotions cause a good part of our disease and DON’T SAY THAT’S BULLSHIT because YOU KNOW IT ISN’T
Gary Craig is a fraud. As I said below,he claims to heal severe traumas by tapping.Fucken tapping. This is hilarious. But whatever dude, if you need to be healed from something, I wish you good health.
@senhordasempadas I find it terrible that EFT guru Gary Craig claims to heal SEVERE TRAUMAS man, this is just bogus, to say the least. You don’t play games with people seeking real help.
There are no acupuncture points. Keep up with the research. Acupuncture is also mostly placebo and it doesn’t matter at all where you put the needles – you get the same effect no matter where they go.
NLP – also bullshit.
Um.. the placebo effect works on skeptical people too.
We are not light.
There is a difference between a naysayer and someone who is not an idiot.
Not a single form of “energy” medicine has been shown to work beyond the placebo effect. Conclusion… just as any reasonably educated person or child can tell.. it’s bullshit that people make up to feel important, delude themselves, and/or and scam others.
Only relevant if you counted the thousands for which it didn’t work and the expected percentage of spontaneous remissions, regression to the norm, controlled placebo, etc.
Don’t you understand the process you MUST go through to properly weed out the real effects from the noise?
try it before you believe it
dont believe it before you try it
skeptic people didnt made the first airplane didnt made the first spaceshutlle
imagine columbus saying:Sailing to India
is impossible
i understand sick people need real help and gary craig is wrong and a fraud… its a crime:)
but youre running an unuseful pattern in your head
try new things and you will get new results
@standekoster Ok, I must say I am a sceptical towards all alternative medicine. It is all nothing to me. That is my pattern in my head – can’t help it. Out of experiences too, you know. Be glad if you can believe in things – it may activate useful placebo. But placebo is not a healing method, beacuse it is a temporary effect. Anyway, do what feels good to you.
There are acupuncture points, which are easily found by experienced practitioners. However, the EFT explaination is not congruent with experience. Simply tapping on alternative shoulders with not acupoints involved works exactly the same as EFT. Another principle is involved other than Craig’s therory.
Those skeptics out there have either not tried EFT, or their problem has not been properly addressed. It is rare that an issue heals by taking it on directly, such as trying to make diabetes go away. You must first treat the resistance, the issues of always being on the defensive and feelings of rejection within the family that must be also included. The results I see in my practice are far beyond that of placebo and far beyond that of the medical establishment; and much cheaper.
@swpalmer I’m equally skeptical of today’s modern medicine…
I remain skeptical. Come back when you’ve got some good evidence EFT’s effectiveness. I want to believe, but I need to know.
@Orayn If you want effectiveness Orayn, try it on yourself. It works, it has changed my life and the lives of those I have used it with. I’m regularly meeting people who I share EFT with, often sceptics. I love the sense of amazement when they are able to let go of the blocks to their happiness. This is set to change the 21st century. Not only in terms of healing, but in coming to an understanding of who we really are. Good luck in your quest. Peace
@Orayn
@Orayn Try it out, it takes 5 minutes, if that…unless you’re making 1000′s of dollars per hour, you probably could spare the time. Personally, I use EFT as a means to let go negative emotions that have been festering inside me. I used to drink and do drugs to deal with my inner demons, but recently quit these things and found EFT; it’s helping me out a lot! Try it out!
I viewed a youtube vid “documentary” on eft. The thing that made me suspicious was that most of the interviewed were (tho credentialed) well known figures in media. Which may mean PR campaign; PR means propaganda. Some of these folk do speak out against the system however (not in the vid).
I’m open tho. I’ve come across many sources discussing new technologies validating meridians and chi flow. I’ve got special glasses for auras…
I agree with that early post about hypnotic induction tho. Surely there’s got to be a test besides alleviation of deep emotional issues – which can be temporal. I don’t find it that effective but maybe the tech isn’t correct.
Wouldn’t you say things like Matrix Energetics is infinitely more dubious? I’d say that this IS hypnotic induction.
It seems as if they have pushed the limit in marketing thin air as it were.